Culture and Sports: Romanian gymnast wins gold 16/04/2008 Romanian gymnast Sandra Izbasa strikes gold in Germany. http://www.setimes.com/
Πολιτισμός και Αθλητισμός: Ρουμάνα γυμνάστρια κερδίζει χρυσό μετάλλιο 16/04/2008 Η Ρουμάνα γυμνάστρια Σάντρα Ιζμπάσα κέρδισε το χρυσό στη Γερμανία.
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Another Romanian gymnast, Sandra Raluca Izbasa, won a silver medal in the Women's Beam event and a bronze in the Women's Individual All-Around event. http://www.setimes.com/
Μια άλλη Ρουμάνα αθλήτρια, η Σάντρα Ραλούτσα Ιζμπάσα, κέρδισε αργυρό μετάλλιο στη Δοκό Ισορροπίας Γυναικών και χάλκινο στο Ατομικό Γυναικών.
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-having regard to the candidates nominated by the 10 new Member States for appointment as Members of the Commission, namely Péter Balįzs, Joe Borg, Jįn Figel', Dalia Grybauskaitė, Danuta Hübner, Siim Kallas, Sandra Kalniete, Markos Kyprianou, Janez Potočnik and Pavel Telička,
-έχοντας υπόψη την πρόθεση του Συμβουλίου να διορίσει τα 10 νέα κράτη μέλη της Επιτροπής το αργότερο έως τις 5 Μαΐου 2004, όπως δηλώνεται στην επιστολή του προς τον Πρόεδρο του Ευρωπαϊκού Κοινοβουλίου στις 26 Φεβρουαρίου 2004,
And during the state of emergency that followed the assassination of Zoran Djindjic in March, 30 people were arrested in connection with this type of crime. Sandra Sljepcevic, representing the International Organisation for Migration (IOM), said that from the summer of 2001 to April of 2003, her group helped 127 people in Serbia-Montenegro who were victims of human trafficking. http://www.setimes.com/
Και κατά τη διάρκεια της κατάστασης εκτάκτου ανάγκης που ακολούθησε τη δολοφονία του Ζόραν Τζίντζιτς τον Μάρτιο, συνελήφθησαν 30 άτομα με διασυνδέσεις σε αυτό το είδος εγκλήματος. Η Σάντρα Σλιεπσέβιτς, εκπροσωπώντας το Διεθνή Οργανισμό Μετανάστευσης (IOM), ανέφερε ότι από το καλοκαίρι του 2001 μέχρι τον Απρίλιο του 2003, η ομάδα της βοήθησε 127 άτομα στη Σερβία- Μαυροβούνιο, τα οποία ήταν θύματα διακίνησης λευκής σαρκός.
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00:00:42:02 00:00:45:18 - Reverend,
you're on duty today.
00:00:47:03 00:00:49:11 Can you think...
just think about the man
00:00:49:11 00:00:53:03 whom you are going to encounter
in an hour from now,
00:00:53:03 00:00:55:19 less than an hour from now.
00:00:55:19 00:01:01:22 - I really am going there
without any expectations.
00:01:01:22 00:01:07:19 I'm going there to experience
what God has prepared for me,
00:01:07:19 00:01:10:07 for him,
for all of those involved,
00:01:10:07 00:01:14:11 and I don't
preconceive anything.
00:01:14:11 00:01:15:23 Not today.
00:01:15:23 00:01:19:10 I will let that happen
as it occurs,
00:01:19:10 00:01:21:22 as time gets there.
00:01:21:22 00:01:25:04 We have a loving, caring,
00:01:25:04 00:01:28:04 forgiving, merciful God,
00:01:28:04 00:01:33:00 and in time of joy
and in time of need,
00:01:33:00 00:01:35:19 in time of trial
or tribulation,
00:01:35:19 00:01:37:22 God is always there for us.
00:01:37:22 00:01:40:22 I want to make
that presence to them.
00:01:40:22 00:01:44:16 - And technically when he is
led to the gurney,
00:01:44:16 00:01:46:09 what is your duty then?
00:01:46:09 00:01:48:17 - After everything
is completed,
00:01:48:17 00:01:50:14 as far as the preparation,
00:01:50:14 00:01:55:02 then I walk over, and I stand
as he has allowed me to stand.
00:01:55:02 00:01:59:03 I always ask permission
to be able to stand at his feet
00:01:59:03 00:02:00:19 and hold his ankle,
00:02:00:19 00:02:03:07 and I move toward
that position,
00:02:03:07 00:02:05:23 and I place my hand
on his ankle,
00:02:05:23 00:02:10:03 and then that's what...
what I do
00:02:10:03 00:02:12:03 until death occurs.
00:02:13:23 00:02:16:05 - And if there is
no family interested
00:02:16:05 00:02:17:20 in taking care of the body,
00:02:17:20 00:02:20:20 the condemned men would end up
right behind you?
00:02:20:20 00:02:24:03 - Yes, they end up here
at the state cemetery,
00:02:24:03 00:02:26:03 and they're buried
by the state.
00:02:27:08 00:02:31:07 No names on the crosses,
only numbers.
00:02:36:19 00:02:42:03 - Why does God allow
capital punishment?
00:02:44:23 00:02:46:23 - I don't know the answer.
00:02:49:11 00:02:51:18 I believe that
there's always a purpose
00:02:51:18 00:02:55:07 why God allows
things to happen.
00:02:57:07 00:03:00:23 God has created so many things
in this world.
00:03:02:06 00:03:04:12 I play golf sometimes.
00:03:04:12 00:03:07:06 I love to be on
the golf course,
00:03:07:06 00:03:12:11 because one thing I do,
I put my phone on a silent mode.
00:03:12:11 00:03:16:21 I go out there sometimes
by myself with no distractions,
00:03:16:21 00:03:19:01 and I can see
the beautiful grass.
00:03:19:01 00:03:22:05 I can see the squirrels,
from time to time, running.
00:03:22:05 00:03:24:05 Sometimes the deer are running.
00:03:24:05 00:03:26:24 Sometimes I look across
the golf course,
00:03:26:24 00:03:31:03 and I see a cow or a horse,
and... and I... and I stop,
00:03:31:03 00:03:35:16 and I acknowledge life.
00:03:35:16 00:03:37:12 Life,
00:03:37:12 00:03:39:22 the things
that God has created.
00:03:39:22 00:03:43:12 - Please describe
an encounter with a squirrel.
00:03:43:12 00:03:44:23 - An encounter with a squirrel,
00:03:44:23 00:03:47:13 I was driving the golf cart,
and I was on the golf...
00:03:47:13 00:03:50:13 on the cart path,
and I saw two squirrels.
00:03:50:13 00:03:53:06 They were chasing each other,
and as I was getting closer,
00:03:53:06 00:03:55:01 they were running across
the cart path,
00:03:55:01 00:03:56:14 and I put on my brakes,
00:03:56:14 00:03:58:16 and they stopped in
the middle of the cart path
00:03:58:16 00:04:02:01 and looked at me,
and I said, "How about this?"
00:04:02:01 00:04:03:10 "If I wouldn't have stopped,
00:04:03:10 00:04:05:24 "I could have run over
one of these squirrels.
00:04:05:24 00:04:08:06 Their life would have ended."
00:04:08:06 00:04:10:06 And that reminds me...
00:04:15:08 00:04:19:22 of the many people
that I have been with
00:04:19:22 00:04:23:21 in their last breath of life,
00:04:23:21 00:04:30:04 and due to bad choices and
mistakes in their life, they...
00:04:30:04 00:04:34:11 their life is taken away
in that moment.
00:04:35:23 00:04:41:23 So life is precious,
whether it's a squirrel
00:04:41:23 00:04:44:19 or a human being.
00:04:44:19 00:04:50:14 So I will sometimes meditate
on that experience.
00:04:50:14 00:04:54:19 Make a little noise,
and the squirrels will take off
00:04:54:19 00:04:56:22 and continue their life,
00:04:56:22 00:04:58:20 but I cannot do that.
00:05:02:08 00:05:05:12 For someone on the gurney,
00:05:05:12 00:05:10:18 I cannot stop the process
for them.
00:05:15:05 00:05:17:15 But I wish I could.
00:07:40:14 00:07:42:01 - Good, yeah.
00:07:42:01 00:07:43:10 You are not wired yet,
00:07:43:10 00:07:45:16 so we have to wire you first.
00:08:13:14 00:08:15:12 Michael Perry,
now from all of us,
00:08:15:12 00:08:16:21 the whole team here,
00:08:16:21 00:08:19:16 we would like to offer
our condolences.
00:08:20:16 00:08:23:19 Your father passed away.
00:08:23:19 00:08:25:11 - Right, on the 10th.
00:08:25:11 00:08:27:00 My dad died 13 days ago.
00:08:27:00 00:08:28:09 - 13 days ago.
00:08:28:09 00:08:29:18 - Yeah, on June 10th.
00:08:29:18 00:08:32:06 - But you will die or you are
scheduled for execution...
00:08:32:06 00:08:33:16 - Right.
00:08:33:16 00:08:35:16 - In only eight days.
- Yes, sir.
00:08:35:16 00:08:37:11 - How are you doing?
00:08:37:11 00:08:39:16 - You know... you know,
I'm a Christian, so, you know,
00:08:39:16 00:08:41:11 I believe that, you know,
paradise awaits
00:08:41:11 00:08:43:20 one way or the other,
so I tell people all the time,
00:08:43:21 00:08:46:16 I'm either going home
or home, so...
00:08:46:16 00:08:49:04 I'm either going home
to the world or home to God,
00:08:49:04 00:08:52:01 so I... you know,
as the days get closer,
00:08:52:01 00:08:54:16 I can feel the pressure
on my shoulders.
00:08:54:16 00:08:57:04 They call it clinical depression
where I just start having
00:08:57:04 00:09:00:18 less motivation to do things,
less energy.
00:09:00:18 00:09:02:16 You get frustrated at the...
at the system.
00:09:02:16 00:09:08:01 How can they not see, you know,
my situation is wrong?
00:09:08:01 00:09:09:18 You know, I... I used to
write all the time
00:09:09:18 00:09:11:06 and have a lot of energy,
00:09:11:06 00:09:12:17 and I just don't
have it any more.
00:09:12:17 00:09:14:22 I just feel like
I've been beaten down.
00:09:14:22 00:09:18:13 - I have the feeling
that destiny, in a way,
00:09:18:13 00:09:22:05 has dealt you
a very bad deck of cards.
00:09:22:05 00:09:24:08 It does not exonerate you,
00:09:24:09 00:09:26:20 and... and when I talk to you,
00:09:26:20 00:09:30:14 it does not necessarily mean
that I have to like you,
00:09:30:14 00:09:33:02 but I respect you,
and you are a human being,
00:09:33:02 00:09:35:12 and I think human beings
should not be executed.
00:09:35:12 00:09:36:23 - Mm-hmm.
- As simply as that.
00:09:36:23 00:09:38:06 - Right.
00:12:03:01 00:12:06:21 - Lieutenant, this looks
idyllic and safe.
00:12:06:21 00:12:08:08 - Well, and you would
think that.
00:12:08:08 00:12:10:04 This is a gated community,
obviously.
00:12:10:04 00:12:13:21 The houses that are out here
are very large houses,
00:12:13:21 00:12:15:06 very expensive houses,
00:12:15:06 00:12:16:17 and you would think
that this is...
00:12:16:17 00:12:18:02 this is a very quiet area,
00:12:18:02 00:12:23:12 and you would, I guess,
associate that with security.
00:12:23:12 00:12:25:16 But this house right here
is actually the house
00:12:25:16 00:12:28:10 where Sandra Stotler
was murdered.
00:12:28:10 00:12:32:01 This is where Michael Perry
and Jason Burkett
00:12:32:01 00:12:33:10 parked out on the street
00:12:33:10 00:12:36:09 and went in and...
and murdered her.
00:12:36:09 00:12:37:19 At the time that we found her,
00:12:37:19 00:12:39:06 she was actually
baking cookies,
00:12:39:06 00:12:40:17 and there was evidence of that.
00:12:40:17 00:12:42:05 There was... there was
cookies out.
00:12:42:05 00:12:44:15 There was cookie dough out.
00:12:44:15 00:12:48:08 So she was in the process
of that when she was killed.
00:12:48:08 00:12:52:17 - But apparently
the first plan was not murder.
00:12:52:18 00:12:55:17 - Well, and that was something
that we were told,
00:12:55:17 00:12:58:09 that initially the...
the boys were all...
00:12:58:09 00:13:01:01 when I say "boys,"
Michael Perry, Jason Burkett,
00:13:01:01 00:13:02:17 Adam Stotler,
and Jeremy Richardson...
00:13:02:17 00:13:04:03 they were acquaintances
00:13:04:03 00:13:06:03 through, you know,
some mutual friends.
00:13:06:03 00:13:08:02 They weren't
really friends themselves,
00:13:08:02 00:13:09:16 but they... they were
acquaintances,
00:13:09:16 00:13:14:07 and what we were told was...
is that they came here
00:13:14:07 00:13:17:15 with the intention
of trying to get Adam Stotler
00:13:17:15 00:13:19:02 to allow them to stay the night
00:13:19:02 00:13:21:03 by telling them they didn't have
a place to stay,
00:13:21:03 00:13:23:21 and they were going to try
to get the keys to the car
00:13:23:21 00:13:25:07 and steal it.
00:13:25:07 00:13:26:17 That's what they were after,
00:13:26:17 00:13:30:02 was the red Camaro
that was in the garage.
00:13:30:02 00:13:32:10 Upon going to the door
and talking to the mother,
00:13:32:10 00:13:34:17 and she said that they were out,
the boys were out,
00:13:34:18 00:13:36:03 and so they left,
00:13:36:03 00:13:37:16 and that's when
their plan changed,
00:13:37:16 00:13:40:21 that they were just going to
kill her and take the car.
00:13:40:21 00:13:43:05 So they went back up
to the door,
00:13:43:05 00:13:45:01 and the garage was open,
00:13:45:01 00:13:47:17 and the door going into
the house was open.
00:13:47:17 00:13:50:03 Michael Perry,
by his own admission,
00:13:50:03 00:13:52:11 entered that garage door
and went into the laundry room
00:13:52:11 00:13:55:03 at the time that Jason Burkett
knocked on the front door.
00:13:55:03 00:13:56:13 And as their truck
was out here,
00:13:56:13 00:13:58:08 he told them
that the truck wouldn't start
00:13:58:08 00:14:01:15 and they needed to call someone
to come and assist them.
00:14:01:15 00:14:03:17 So she let him in the house
to use the telephone,
00:14:03:17 00:14:05:02 and while he was doing that,
00:14:05:02 00:14:07:01 Michael Perry stepped
out of the laundry room
00:14:07:01 00:14:09:11 and knocked on
the back garage door,
00:14:09:11 00:14:11:13 which made her come
and answer it,
00:14:11:13 00:14:13:23 and he stepped out from the
laundry room from behind her,
00:14:13:23 00:14:15:21 and that's when he shot her.
00:14:18:07 00:14:21:05 The actual garage door itself
was open
00:14:21:05 00:14:23:20 when our deputies
arrived on the scene.
00:15:27:04 00:15:28:13 The master bedroom,
00:15:28:13 00:15:30:05 which is in the back part
of the house
00:15:30:05 00:15:32:01 behind the garage over here,
00:15:32:01 00:15:34:13 they went in,
and they took the top bedding,
00:15:34:13 00:15:37:05 the blanket and the...
the top sheet,
00:15:37:05 00:15:39:13 and that's what they
wrapped her in.
00:15:39:13 00:15:41:10 They brought her out,
put her in the truck,
00:15:41:10 00:15:43:18 and they drove her out
to Crater Lake
00:15:43:18 00:15:45:14 to dispose of her body.
00:15:47:24 00:15:49:09 - And how does it happen?
00:15:49:09 00:15:50:23 Was it drugs?
00:15:50:23 00:15:52:18 - You know, I don't know
that there was ever
00:15:52:18 00:15:54:22 any direct evidence
as far as, you know,
00:15:54:22 00:15:56:22 drugs relating particularly
to this case.
00:15:56:22 00:16:00:14 I mean, honestly, it was just...
you know, they had a car.
00:16:00:14 00:16:02:20 You know, this lady owned a car
that they wanted,
00:16:02:20 00:16:05:07 so, you know, it was...
00:16:05:07 00:16:08:08 unfortunately, you know,
people died for a theft.
00:16:29:05 00:16:30:14 Other than it being dark,
00:16:30:14 00:16:33:23 this is pretty much
the way it was
00:16:33:23 00:16:35:18 that night
when we came out here.
00:16:47:08 00:16:51:03 You'll see all kinds of debris
and trash here, as I said.
00:16:51:03 00:16:56:06 This is... was pretty commonly
used for a dumping ground.
00:16:56:06 00:16:59:05 They've pulled lots of vehicles
out of... out of Crater Lake.
00:16:59:05 00:17:01:17 We've had, actually,
a few other bodies
00:17:01:17 00:17:05:04 that we've... that we've gotten
out of Crater Lake.
00:17:05:04 00:17:07:08 This is Crater Lake here.
00:17:07:08 00:17:08:20 This little area right here,
00:17:08:20 00:17:13:12 this is where the tire treads
in the dirt was actually here.
00:17:15:05 00:17:17:08 At the time that they first
came down here,
00:17:17:08 00:17:19:07 they actually backed up to that
00:17:19:07 00:17:20:22 and tried to slam
on their brakes,
00:17:20:22 00:17:22:18 hoping to eject the body
in the water,
00:17:22:18 00:17:24:12 and that didn't work,
so, again,
00:17:24:12 00:17:26:09 that was just something that...
that we heard.
00:17:26:09 00:17:28:20 I don't know that that's
actually what happened,
00:17:28:20 00:17:30:20 but you could tell from...
00:17:30:20 00:17:33:16 there wasn't any distinct
tire wear in the ground.
00:17:33:16 00:17:35:12 You could just tell
that a tire...
00:17:35:12 00:17:38:08 tires had been
spinning there, so...
00:17:38:08 00:17:39:20 So it seemed to fit the story,
00:17:39:20 00:17:41:18 but they ended up
getting the body
00:17:41:18 00:17:44:03 and... and carrying it out here,
00:17:44:04 00:17:46:11 and it was just dropped
in the water.
00:18:54:23 00:18:57:07 We didn't know when we
processed the scene here
00:18:57:07 00:19:00:09 and when we processed
Sandra Stotler's residence,
00:19:00:09 00:19:01:18 we still did not know
00:19:01:18 00:19:03:18 that we had any other victims
other than her.
00:19:08:19 00:19:12:02 This is the gated community
of Highland Ranch.
00:19:12:02 00:19:14:07 Inside those gates is the house
00:19:14:07 00:19:18:02 where Sandra Stotler
was murdered.
00:19:18:02 00:19:20:20 When Michael Perry
and Jason Burkett came back here
00:19:20:20 00:19:22:23 to get the Camaro
that they were after,
00:19:22:23 00:19:24:19 these gates were...
were shut and locked,
00:19:24:19 00:19:26:12 so they didn't have access
to it,
00:19:26:12 00:19:28:22 so they waited around
and parked
00:19:28:22 00:19:33:09 until Adam Stotler and
Jeremy Richardson returned home,
00:19:33:09 00:19:36:22 and that's when they got them to
come out in the woods with them
00:19:36:22 00:19:39:14 and... and murdered them
so that they could get
00:19:39:14 00:19:42:01 basically the clicker
to come back and get access in...
00:19:42:01 00:19:43:10 you know, into this gate
00:19:43:10 00:19:45:00 so that they could go back
to the house
00:19:45:00 00:19:46:10 and take the Camaro.
00:19:46:10 00:19:49:02 - So only because they
didn't have the code here
00:19:49:02 00:19:51:15 and it was closed at night,
00:19:51:15 00:19:54:16 two more young people
had to die.
00:19:54:16 00:19:56:08 - Yes, sir.
That's correct.
00:20:01:04 00:20:04:24 - Lieutenant, Jason Burkett
and Michael Perry
00:20:04:24 00:20:07:16 bragged about
what they had done.
00:20:07:16 00:20:10:23 How clear evidence was that?
00:20:10:23 00:20:12:21 - Well, because it came
from multiple people.
00:20:12:21 00:20:14:06 It wasn't just one.
00:20:14:06 00:20:15:18 We got reports
from several people
00:20:15:18 00:20:17:03 from the different hangouts
00:20:17:03 00:20:19:02 that they had said
that they had killed people.
00:20:19:02 00:20:20:20 That's how they got
the vehicles.
00:21:11:04 00:21:12:17 It was pretty convincing.
00:21:12:17 00:21:14:10 I mean, we believed it.
00:21:14:10 00:21:17:05 Although, again, we...
we didn't have evidence
00:21:17:05 00:21:19:09 that we had other bodies
at the time.
00:21:20:15 00:21:22:17 - Only after Perry confessed,
00:21:22:17 00:21:26:11 he pointed you to the location
of the two young boys.
00:21:27:19 00:21:29:03 - Yes, sir.
00:22:11:18 00:22:13:05 - As soon as I found out
my mother...
00:22:13:05 00:22:14:14 her body had been found,
00:22:14:14 00:22:16:22 that whole week is just a blur.
00:22:16:22 00:22:18:07 I was watching the news.
00:22:18:07 00:22:19:20 It was Monday morning,
00:22:19:20 00:22:23:00 and I saw helicopters flying
over Ronny's truck stop here.
00:22:23:00 00:22:27:14 Well, we live a mile,
and I had a glimmer of hope.
00:22:27:14 00:22:31:02 I said, "Adam got away.
He's found his way home."
00:22:31:02 00:22:33:22 Because that's the exit you'd
get off to come to my house.
00:22:33:22 00:22:35:10 So I told my husband.
00:22:35:10 00:22:37:12 I said, "Get in the car.
We're going down there."
00:22:37:12 00:22:39:01 'Cause they showed
the crime scene,
00:22:39:01 00:22:40:19 the helicopters.
00:22:40:19 00:22:42:23 My brother's car
was there on the news.
00:22:42:23 00:22:44:15 So we went up
to Ronny's truck stop,
00:22:44:15 00:22:47:09 and I saw all that stuff
on the car,
00:22:47:09 00:22:49:03 and I'm like,
"oh, that's not Adam's car.
00:22:49:03 00:22:50:22 He doesn't have all that stuff
on there."
00:22:50:22 00:22:52:15 - "Stuff" meaning?
00:22:52:15 00:22:55:04 - The stickers and the...
- "Gauge," "A.B."?
00:22:55:04 00:22:56:14 - Yeah, I saw all that stuff.
00:22:56:14 00:22:58:06 I was like,
"oh, that's not his car."
00:23:04:22 00:23:07:08 You know, and then I looked at
the license plate.
00:23:07:08 00:23:09:14 The car was riddled
with bullets,
00:23:09:14 00:23:14:12 and they had just
chased them down
00:23:14:12 00:23:17:03 and caught them at
the apartment complex,
00:23:17:03 00:23:20:15 and I was kind of
trailing behind them,
00:23:20:15 00:23:22:13 and they left to go
to the hospital,
00:23:22:13 00:23:24:24 and they told me...
I was like, "Please tell me,"
00:23:24:24 00:23:27:21 because Adam had been missing
now since Wednesday,
00:23:27:21 00:23:29:08 and it was now Monday,
and I said,
00:23:29:08 00:23:31:08 "Please tell me,
was Adam with them?"
00:23:31:08 00:23:32:20 And they said, "Adam got shot",
00:23:32:20 00:23:35:06 and they took him
to the hospital."
00:23:35:06 00:23:39:05 Now, Michael Perry
is still saying he's Adam.
00:23:39:05 00:23:41:13 He got out of jail.
He bonded out of jail.
00:23:53:04 00:23:55:20 - Perry just had his ID.
00:23:55:20 00:23:57:16 You believed...
- I believed he was alive.
00:23:57:16 00:23:59:08 - Your brother was safe,
only wounded,
00:23:59:08 00:24:02:05 because you were told
Adam was safe...
00:24:02:05 00:24:03:14 - Was shot.
00:24:03:14 00:24:05:04 - And shot but in hospital.
00:24:05:04 00:24:07:13 - And I... you know,
I was like...
00:24:07:13 00:24:10:08 Thank God.
00:24:10:08 00:24:11:20 So I started calling
the hospitals
00:24:11:20 00:24:14:01 trying to figure out
which hospital he was at,
00:24:14:01 00:24:16:15 and I described him,
and she's like...
00:24:16:15 00:24:18:10 I finally got a nurse
who would talk to me,
00:24:18:10 00:24:21:10 and she's like, "That's not
the kid that's here, ma'am."
00:24:21:10 00:24:26:19 - But you had hopes, I mean,
substantial hopes
00:24:26:19 00:24:29:16 that your brother Adam
was wounded but safe.
00:24:29:16 00:24:31:01 - Yes.
- Alive.
00:24:31:01 00:24:32:10 - Yeah.
00:24:32:10 00:24:34:10 - And all of a sudden...
00:24:34:10 00:24:37:02 - My world was ripped out
from underneath me.
00:24:39:13 00:24:41:13 Everyone was gone.
00:24:45:18 00:24:48:02 I called Lieutenant Davidson,
00:24:48:02 00:24:51:18 and he told me to come down
to the police station,
00:24:51:18 00:24:53:07 and I told him,
00:24:53:07 00:24:55:10 "I'm watching you on TV
right now.
00:24:55:10 00:24:57:22 Just tell me
if that's Adam."
00:24:57:22 00:24:59:14 And he said,
"I really would like you
00:24:59:14 00:25:01:22 to come down
to the station."
00:25:01:22 00:25:03:21 And I said, "Just tell me."
00:25:03:21 00:25:06:01 And he said,
"Yeah, it's Adam."
00:25:06:01 00:25:07:17 He said, "It's Adam,"
00:25:07:17 00:25:10:11 and my knees gave out,
00:25:10:11 00:25:13:11 and I never knew that your knees
really went weak, you know,
00:25:13:11 00:25:15:13 but that saying is true,
"Weak in the knees."
00:25:15:13 00:25:17:13 My knees went weak,
and I fell to the floor.
00:25:27:16 00:25:29:18 - This is Lindsey Lane.
00:25:29:18 00:25:32:06 This is where we were directed
on this road
00:25:32:06 00:25:34:21 by Michael Perry
in his confession
00:25:34:21 00:25:36:24 that we would find
two additional bodies
00:25:36:24 00:25:39:04 of Adam Stotler
and Jeremy Richardson.
00:25:43:17 00:25:45:13 We came down this road,
and then we split up.
00:25:45:13 00:25:46:22 We went to the end of the road,
00:25:46:22 00:25:49:00 and we actually walked
back this way
00:25:49:00 00:25:52:14 and discovered Adam's body.
00:26:00:08 00:26:01:22 They lured them into this area
00:26:01:22 00:26:04:05 by telling them that there was
a mutual friend of theirs
00:26:04:05 00:26:06:14 that had gotten hurt
while they were hunting.
00:26:10:11 00:26:13:13 This house obviously
was not here at the time.
00:26:13:13 00:26:14:24 You can see,
as this is coming out,
00:26:14:24 00:26:16:09 how it's coming around,
00:26:16:09 00:26:18:21 so it's gonna be
somewhere about...
00:26:18:21 00:26:20:17 somewhere in that concrete
is gonna be
00:26:20:17 00:26:22:17 about where his body
was discovered.
00:26:32:11 00:26:34:13 Once we actually
processed the scene
00:26:34:13 00:26:36:13 and we moved the body,
once we moved the body,
00:26:36:13 00:26:39:03 there was a cigarette butt
under it, which we collected,
00:26:39:03 00:26:42:13 and there was also another
cigarette butt close by,
00:26:42:13 00:26:44:03 but the one that was
under his body,
00:26:44:03 00:26:46:11 once we submitted it
to the state lab for DNA,
00:26:46:11 00:26:48:24 it had Michael Perry's DNA
on it.
00:26:48:24 00:26:51:02 - Which means the body
had fallen...
00:26:51:02 00:26:52:11 - Had fallen on the cigarette
00:26:52:11 00:26:54:12 after it was already discarded
on the ground.
00:26:56:15 00:26:58:23 The other body
was Jeremy Richardson.
00:26:58:23 00:27:01:07 From where we actually
found his body,
00:27:01:07 00:27:04:01 it was so dense with trees,
we couldn't even get into it.
00:27:04:01 00:27:05:24 I don't know
how he got into it.
00:27:05:24 00:27:08:13 We couldn't hardly even get into
it without taking machetes
00:27:08:13 00:27:10:13 and... and cutting back
some of the brush.
00:27:13:18 00:27:15:18 Jeremy, he ran
for some distance
00:27:15:18 00:27:17:04 while he was being shot at.
00:27:17:04 00:27:18:13 I don't know if it was 'cause
00:27:18:13 00:27:20:21 he heard the gunshots here
and got startled,
00:27:20:21 00:27:22:13 or if Jason pointed
the shotgun at him,
00:27:22:13 00:27:24:13 and he realized it
before he was actually shot,
00:27:24:13 00:27:26:05 and he took off running.
00:27:35:15 00:27:39:15 - Charles, you lost
your brother, Jeremy.
00:27:39:15 00:27:42:18 Do you remember the moment
when you heard about it?
00:27:45:09 00:27:46:21 - I was in Georgia,
00:27:46:21 00:27:49:15 and I got a phone call
from my aunt
00:27:49:15 00:27:52:01 saying for me to call home.
00:27:52:01 00:27:53:18 Something bad had happened.
00:27:55:13 00:27:56:22 I tried to call.
00:27:56:22 00:27:59:06 I didn't have no money
at the time,
00:27:59:06 00:28:01:10 and my phone wouldn't let me
call long distance,
00:28:01:10 00:28:05:15 so I tried to call collect,
and my grandpa hung up on me.
00:28:05:15 00:28:07:06 He didn't want to...
00:28:07:06 00:28:09:14 he didn't even want to pay
$2 to talk to me
00:28:09:14 00:28:12:07 to tell me my brother was dead.
00:28:14:05 00:28:17:06 I had to actually
get my aunt to call
00:28:17:06 00:28:18:22 and find out what was going on,
00:28:18:22 00:28:23:23 and then she called me back,
and my first thought was...
00:28:23:23 00:28:26:10 just because on the phone
she says,
00:28:26:10 00:28:27:22 "Do you know Jason Burkett?"
00:28:27:22 00:28:29:09 I said, "Yeah."
00:28:29:09 00:28:31:03 She said,
"Well, something's happened,
00:28:31:03 00:28:34:08 and your brother's dead,"
and, uh...
00:28:48:08 00:28:50:14 My... my first thought was,
you know,
00:28:50:14 00:28:54:03 Jason was just driving,
being stupid
00:28:54:03 00:28:57:23 the way he normally was
and had wrecked,
00:28:57:23 00:28:59:08 and then she told me no,
00:28:59:08 00:29:02:10 that Jason shot my brother
over a car.
00:29:03:15 00:29:05:16 I... I just fell out.
00:29:05:16 00:29:07:16 I fell out.
00:29:09:23 00:29:13:18 My uncle came
and picked me up, and, uh...
00:29:14:19 00:29:17:07 We just went driving around.
00:29:17:07 00:29:19:05 - And your father?
00:29:19:05 00:29:20:14 Where was he?
00:29:20:14 00:29:22:06 - He was in prison.
00:29:22:06 00:29:24:02 - How serious?
00:29:25:22 00:29:27:07 - Well, it was the first time
00:29:27:07 00:29:30:23 he was in jail for murder,
in prison for murder.
00:29:30:23 00:29:33:07 - Life sentence?
00:29:33:08 00:29:35:20 - Well, no.
00:29:35:20 00:29:39:12 He... he was doing
his 15 year sentence first,
00:29:39:12 00:29:41:04 and then he was out
for about a year,
00:29:41:04 00:29:44:13 and then he went
and got a life sentence,
00:29:44:13 00:29:46:19 and he's just getting out
after that.
00:29:48:06 00:29:50:22 - And you flew in
for the funeral?
00:29:50:22 00:29:52:13 - Yeah, I flew in
for the funeral.
00:29:55:00 00:30:00:00 The cops said I had jumped bond,
and the cops were there to...
00:30:00:00 00:30:05:17 to take me to jail
over my brother's...
00:30:07:10 00:30:10:02 Can I tell 'em
what it was for or...
00:30:10:02 00:30:12:02 I mean, would it be okay
to tell 'em,
00:30:12:02 00:30:14:12 you know, it was
a drug possession?
00:30:14:12 00:30:17:01 - So you took the jail time
for your brother,
00:30:17:01 00:30:18:10 and you were arrested?
00:30:18:10 00:30:20:02 - Yeah, at the funeral.
00:30:20:02 00:30:21:12 The cops came in there.
00:30:21:12 00:30:25:16 There was six cops came in
and identified me
00:30:25:16 00:30:30:04 and told me they were gonna
take me to jail right then.
00:30:30:04 00:30:32:01 I asked them, you know,
could I at least stay
00:30:32:01 00:30:34:01 for my brother's funeral.
00:30:34:01 00:30:36:13 - And the teardrops,
the tattoos,
00:30:36:13 00:30:38:12 what do they signify?
00:30:38:12 00:30:42:18 - I lost my...
my brother and my sister.
00:30:42:18 00:30:44:03 - Brother murdered.
00:30:44:03 00:30:46:14 Your sister,
what happened to her?
00:30:46:14 00:30:48:04 - She was coming to my house,
00:30:48:04 00:30:51:20 and she crossed the freeway,
00:30:51:20 00:30:54:04 and she got ran over by a car.
00:30:56:20 00:31:00:12 - Tell me about
your brother Jeremy.
00:31:00:12 00:31:02:08 Can you show us?
00:31:10:21 00:31:13:19 - Jeremy was... he was...
00:31:13:19 00:31:15:17 he was just the golden child.
00:31:19:09 00:31:22:17 He was a good kid,
trusted his friends.
00:31:28:02 00:31:33:18 He would get in trouble just...
just to...
00:31:33:18 00:31:35:17 to have that attention,
00:31:35:17 00:31:37:12 but he wouldn't
do nothing serious.
00:31:37:12 00:31:39:16 He would... he would never
do anything too serious.
00:31:39:17 00:31:43:21 He got in trouble for
making people laugh, you know,
00:31:43:21 00:31:46:07 talking during class, you know,
stuff like that.
00:31:46:07 00:31:47:19 He was a very sociable person.
00:31:47:19 00:31:50:09 Everybody loved him, and, uh...
00:31:52:17 00:31:54:09 Everybody said that
I was the one
00:31:54:09 00:31:59:06 that was supposed to be dead
before I was 21 and not Jeremy.
00:31:59:06 00:32:00:15 - And you loved him.
00:32:00:15 00:32:02:15 - Of course.
00:32:05:17 00:32:08:11 He was my...
he was my best friend.
00:32:10:14 00:32:12:12 He was my best friend
growing up.
00:32:12:12 00:32:14:04 He's all I had.
00:32:17:09 00:32:18:23 - You took care of him.
00:32:21:23 00:32:23:15 - I tried.
00:32:26:08 00:32:30:10 Turns out the only thing
I did was hurt him.
00:32:30:10 00:32:33:05 I introduced him to the people
that killed him.
00:32:42:17 00:32:44:02 He'd tell me all the time,
00:32:44:02 00:32:46:18 it was me and him
against the world.
00:32:49:23 00:32:52:02 I tell my wife
the same thing now.
00:32:55:02 00:32:57:02 It's just me and him
against the world.
00:33:06:03 00:33:09:09 - I believe from the time
that we got the initial call
00:33:09:09 00:33:11:10 until they were caught,
it was within a week.
00:33:11:10 00:33:14:05 It was, I believe,
five to seven days.
00:33:14:05 00:33:17:16 - And you arrived at the scene
where they were apprehended?
00:33:17:16 00:33:19:03 - Yes, sir.
00:33:19:03 00:33:21:13 - Can you describe?
00:33:21:13 00:33:22:22 Was it mayhem?
00:33:22:22 00:33:24:10 - Yes, sir, it was.
00:33:24:10 00:33:26:02 There was a truck stop...
00:33:26:02 00:33:28:01 actually, the truck stop's
not there any more,
00:33:28:01 00:33:30:05 but it was at the... kind of
the side parking lot
00:33:30:05 00:33:31:14 of a truck stop,
00:33:31:14 00:33:33:10 and there was
an abandoned warehouse,
00:33:33:10 00:33:35:18 and then on the other side
of that, an apartment complex,
00:33:35:18 00:33:39:06 so the entire scene spanned
from that parking lot
00:33:39:06 00:33:41:18 all the way well into
the apartment complex.
00:33:44:21 00:33:46:13 There was shotgun shells.
00:33:46:13 00:33:49:01 There was cartridge casings
where they had exchanged fire
00:33:49:01 00:33:50:20 with the officers
that were there.
00:33:50:20 00:33:52:05 There was wrecked vehicles,
00:33:52:05 00:33:54:17 and, I mean, there was
just people everywhere.
00:33:56:17 00:33:59:16 - And the police officer
was run over?
00:33:59:16 00:34:01:04 - Yes, sir, his leg.
00:34:04:01 00:34:05:21 There was a vehicle
wrecked out,
00:34:05:21 00:34:08:05 and all the glass
in the vehicle
00:34:08:05 00:34:10:21 had shattered
from the gunshots.
00:34:10:21 00:34:14:11 Burkett and Perry both sustained
gunshot wounds.
00:34:14:11 00:34:17:19 I believe Jason Burkett
was shot three times,
00:34:17:19 00:34:19:07 if I'm not mistaken,
00:34:19:07 00:34:21:09 and I'm not really certain
about Michael Perry,
00:34:21:09 00:34:24:00 but they... they both had wounds
from gunshots
00:34:24:00 00:34:27:03 and obviously glass cuts
and scrapes.
00:34:55:10 00:34:57:22 - So there was a wild,
hot pursuit,
00:34:57:22 00:35:00:13 and you were
in this wild chase.
00:35:00:13 00:35:02:12 Did you actually open fire
at them or...
00:35:02:12 00:35:03:21 - What had happened...
00:35:03:21 00:35:05:20 - I don't want to be
too indiscreet, but I think...
00:35:05:20 00:35:07:05 - Well, I can tell you.
00:35:07:06 00:35:08:15 I can tell you.
I pled guilty.
00:35:08:15 00:35:10:23 I've got 10 years done on
a 15 year sentence for it, so...
00:35:10:23 00:35:12:21 - I see, yeah.
- We were asleep.
00:35:12:21 00:35:14:19 We had been drinking
the night before.
00:35:14:19 00:35:16:04 We were sleeping in the car
00:35:16:04 00:35:17:20 because we couldn't
get to the motel,
00:35:17:20 00:35:19:20 which was on
the other side of a fence.
00:35:21:22 00:35:24:08 I don't remember this other guy
that was in the car with us.
00:35:24:08 00:35:25:17 I don't know
how he got with us.
00:35:25:17 00:35:27:02 I don't know his name.
00:35:27:02 00:35:28:19 I don't know anything
about him.
00:35:28:19 00:35:30:09 Michael Perry and me
were drinking,
00:35:30:09 00:35:33:21 and somehow this guy
got with us that night.
00:35:33:21 00:35:38:08 I remember getting woke up
and getting shot in the car.
00:35:38:08 00:35:39:17 I looked around.
00:35:39:17 00:35:41:04 Michael Perry
wasn't next to me.
00:35:41:04 00:35:42:14 It was some other kid
next to me,
00:35:42:14 00:35:44:01 but Perry was in the backseat,
00:35:44:01 00:35:46:21 and Perry tried to get
out of the car in the back,
00:35:46:21 00:35:48:06 and then he shut the door.
00:35:48:06 00:35:51:09 I started the truck,
and I went to flee,
00:35:51:09 00:35:53:10 and everybody says,
"You shouldn't have ran.
00:35:53:10 00:35:54:19 You shouldn't have ran."
00:35:54:19 00:35:56:11 I had just been shot,
00:35:56:11 00:35:58:23 and the only way for me
to not to get shot again
00:35:58:23 00:36:00:15 was to get out of there,
00:36:00:15 00:36:02:19 and I wasn't thinking clearly.
00:36:02:19 00:36:04:05 I didn't know about a murder.
00:36:04:05 00:36:06:01 I didn't know about
what they were looking...
00:36:06:01 00:36:07:10 I didn't know the extent.
00:36:07:10 00:36:09:01 I didn't even know
they knew who I was.
00:36:09:01 00:36:11:22 And when I drove off,
00:36:11:22 00:36:13:11 the officer was
right in front of me.
00:36:13:11 00:36:14:21 I drove to the right,
00:36:14:21 00:36:18:10 and he shot me through the door
right here in my arm.
00:36:18:10 00:36:21:02 - How badly were you wounded?
00:36:21:02 00:36:22:11 - I was shot right here.
00:36:22:11 00:36:23:23 - Can you show it higher for me?
00:36:23:23 00:36:26:12 - I was shot right here
in my wrist.
00:36:26:12 00:36:29:08 I was shot right here
in my hand, my finger.
00:36:29:08 00:36:31:15 I was shot right here.
00:36:31:16 00:36:33:12 I was shot right here,
00:36:33:12 00:36:36:20 and I was shot right here.
00:36:36:20 00:36:41:04 Right here, I had a piece
of the car door in my side.
00:36:41:04 00:36:44:12 - Still lodged in your side?
00:36:44:12 00:36:46:24 So how do you get through
a metal detector?
00:36:46:24 00:36:49:13 - Well, it came out afterwards.
It came out.
00:36:49:13 00:36:51:08 It did finally come out
in the jail.
00:36:51:08 00:36:55:03 Right here in my collarbone,
I had a piece of glass
00:36:55:03 00:36:57:18 from the car door, went inside.
00:37:01:18 00:37:04:13 I crashed into a building
because I couldn't steer.
00:37:04:13 00:37:06:05 My blood's all in the truck.
00:37:06:05 00:37:08:13 They said,
"Well, your DNA's on the gun."
00:37:08:13 00:37:10:04 My DNA's on everything
in there.
00:37:10:04 00:37:13:01 I was shot.
My DNA was on Michael Perry.
00:37:13:01 00:37:15:13 My DNA was on every seat
in there from being shot.
00:37:15:13 00:37:17:16 Blood went everywhere.
00:37:22:11 00:37:25:17 Whenever I crashed,
I jumped out and ran.
00:37:25:17 00:37:27:02 I ran.
00:37:27:02 00:37:29:03 I ran in the building.
00:37:29:03 00:37:31:01 There was cops
shooting at the building
00:37:31:01 00:37:32:13 where we were crashed into.
00:37:32:13 00:37:35:12 They were shooting
from every direction.
00:37:35:12 00:37:39:16 The window in the back
of the building's like this.
00:37:39:16 00:37:41:07 You can't get through it.
00:37:41:07 00:37:44:09 I shot one time with the gun
through the window.
00:37:44:09 00:37:45:23 I probably shouldn't
have done that,
00:37:45:23 00:37:47:18 but I was trapped,
and I was panicking.
00:37:47:18 00:37:49:07 I didn't know what to do.
00:37:49:07 00:37:51:19 And when we got through there,
we ran to some apartments,
00:37:51:19 00:37:56:01 and, you know, I... I carried Perry
half the way,
00:37:56:01 00:37:59:05 but, I mean,
we got to the apartment.
00:37:59:05 00:38:02:15 - You... you dealt with it
like real tough men.
00:38:02:15 00:38:04:13 I remember reading somewhere
00:38:04:13 00:38:07:13 that Michael Perry shouted,
"This is it.
00:38:07:13 00:38:10:01 Put the balls at the walls,"
or something.
00:38:10:01 00:38:12:17 "Let's bolt.
Let's fight back."
00:38:12:17 00:38:15:01 Can you remember
something like that?
00:38:15:01 00:38:17:17 - I remember reading that
they said, "Balls to the walls,"
00:38:17:17 00:38:19:08 or, you know, something.
00:38:19:08 00:38:20:17 I don't recall him saying it.
00:38:20:17 00:38:22:02 He could have said it.
00:38:22:02 00:38:24:07 - Too much commotion.
Too many bullets flying.
00:38:24:07 00:38:26:12 - I didn't really understand
what was happening.
00:38:26:12 00:38:28:20 All I knew is, where we were at,
we could not stay there.
00:38:28:20 00:38:30:06 - Yeah.
00:38:30:06 00:38:33:09 - And... and he was screaming,
"Balls to the walls," they say.
00:38:33:09 00:38:36:13 - Well, um, how can I say?
00:38:36:14 00:38:39:19 I... I don't want to go into
the details of...
00:38:39:19 00:38:41:05 of what happened,
00:38:41:05 00:38:45:24 but fact is that
three people were killed.
00:38:45:24 00:38:47:10 - Mm-hmm.
00:38:47:10 00:38:52:22 - And you deny that you were
even close to the scene or...
00:38:52:22 00:38:54:07 how... how do you...
00:38:54:07 00:38:55:21 - Well, there's no longer
a question.
00:38:55:21 00:38:57:19 There's no longer a question
of my innocence.
00:38:57:19 00:38:59:06 That's... question
is out the door.
00:38:59:06 00:39:01:20 The question is, what is anyone
gonna do about it now?
00:39:01:20 00:39:05:14 I mean, a perfect example is,
you're here with these guys.
00:39:05:14 00:39:07:10 They show up
at your hotel room in a car.
00:39:07:10 00:39:09:13 You're gonna assume that
that car is...
00:39:09:13 00:39:11:01 you know,
these are your friends,
00:39:11:01 00:39:13:00 so when Jason shows up
to pick me up in a car,
00:39:13:00 00:39:14:10 I'm gonna assume it's okay.
00:39:14:10 00:39:15:22 You get in it,
and you get arrested,
00:39:15:22 00:39:18:12 and you come to find out he just
murdered someone from that car,
00:39:18:13 00:39:20:05 you're gonna end up
on Texas death row.
00:39:20:05 00:39:21:14 You're gonna end up right here
00:39:21:14 00:39:23:04 because you trusted
one of these guys
00:39:23:04 00:39:24:22 to show up and pick you up
in a... in a real car
00:39:24:22 00:39:26:21 that wasn't just stolen.
00:39:26:21 00:39:29:16 - But trusting in Jason
was a bad choice.
00:39:29:16 00:39:31:22 - Oh, absolutely.
- I mean, let's face it.
00:39:31:22 00:39:34:18 He was some sort of a bad apple,
and so... so were you.
00:39:34:18 00:39:37:09 - I was homeless and starving,
so it was...
00:39:37:09 00:39:40:19 - And using drugs and stealing.
00:39:40:19 00:39:43:07 - He offered me drugs.
He offered me a place to stay.
00:39:43:07 00:39:45:14 He offered me food,
so I chose...
00:39:45:14 00:39:47:05 I chose that,
which I shouldn't have.
00:39:47:05 00:39:49:06 I regret it every...
every minute now.
00:39:49:06 00:39:51:17 Cherish every minute, huh?
00:39:51:17 00:39:53:02 Cherish every minute.
00:39:53:02 00:39:55:21 Make the most of it because,
you know,
00:39:55:21 00:39:57:16 they can... they can...
they can do you like me.
00:39:57:16 00:39:59:12 Be in the wrong situation
at the wrong time,
00:39:59:13 00:40:01:06 and there's no telling
where you end up.
00:40:01:06 00:40:03:15 You might want to get out of
Texas as soon as possible, huh?
00:40:03:15 00:40:05:10 They might arrest you
any... any second, huh?
00:40:45:23 00:40:47:09 - I went over
to my buddy's house.
00:40:47:09 00:40:50:04 There was a guy there,
and he wanted to fight me,
00:40:50:04 00:40:55:15 and he run up on me
as I got out of the truck,
00:40:55:15 00:40:57:21 and... and I just
kind of blew him off.
00:40:57:21 00:40:59:06 You know what I mean?
00:40:59:06 00:41:01:09 "Just go on, man,
go on about your business."
00:41:01:09 00:41:04:00 And everybody said he was saying
he was gonna stab me
00:41:04:00 00:41:05:20 when I got out of the truck.
00:41:05:20 00:41:07:08 You know,
it kind of pissed me off,
00:41:07:08 00:41:10:00 so I... I went back,
found the dude,
00:41:10:00 00:41:13:12 and run up on him,
and I was taking off my shirt,
00:41:13:12 00:41:16:08 and I threw my... threw my
shirt up like that, you know,
00:41:16:08 00:41:18:04 and threw it up over my elbow.
00:41:18:04 00:41:20:16 I was gonna take it off,
and when I did that,
00:41:20:16 00:41:23:08 he hit me right here
with a screwdriver, you know,
00:41:23:09 00:41:26:01 a screwdriver about that long,
and it was a Phillips,
00:41:26:01 00:41:28:05 you know, them little skinny,
long screwdrivers.
00:41:28:05 00:41:32:05 It sunk in to the handle,
and after that, uh...
00:41:32:05 00:41:34:19 - All the way to the handle?
- All the way to the handle.
00:41:34:19 00:41:36:07 - How did it happen?
00:41:36:07 00:41:40:11 - Man, it's probably,
probably about right in there.
00:41:40:11 00:41:43:11 It went straight...
straight through under my arm,
00:41:43:11 00:41:44:20 into my chest,
00:41:44:20 00:41:47:06 and I never went to the hospital
or anything.
00:41:47:06 00:41:49:16 - And what did you feel?
You felt the...
00:41:49:16 00:41:52:04 - Yeah, just a...
I felt the... the...
00:41:52:04 00:41:54:11 you know, the pressure of it
when it hit.
00:41:54:11 00:41:55:20 That's all I felt,
00:41:55:20 00:41:57:13 and I kind of jumped back
out the way,
00:41:57:13 00:42:01:12 and... and I looked,
and my buddy threw me a knife,
00:42:01:12 00:42:03:09 and I looked down at the knife
on the ground,
00:42:03:09 00:42:04:18 and I was like, you know,
00:42:04:19 00:42:06:19 I'm thinking to myself
in my head, you know,
00:42:06:19 00:42:09:03 "I'm going home
to my kids today."
00:42:09:03 00:42:10:23 You know, so I didn't even
pick it up,
00:42:10:23 00:42:14:09 and then my other buddy come out
running by the yard,
00:42:14:09 00:42:18:05 and I had to be at work
in 30 minutes.
00:42:18:05 00:42:20:14 Matter of fact, I roof...
00:42:20:14 00:42:24:14 I was roofing a house
with Jason's brother.
00:42:24:14 00:42:27:02 What is it, Chris Burkett?
00:42:27:02 00:42:28:14 And I was roofing
a house with him.
00:42:28:14 00:42:30:06 - Chris was not in jail
at that time.
00:42:30:06 00:42:32:01 - Nah.
00:42:32:01 00:42:33:15 - And you went to hospital?
00:42:33:15 00:42:35:06 - Nah.
00:42:35:06 00:42:36:17 They was asking me
00:42:36:17 00:42:38:14 if I needed to go
to the hospital or anything,
00:42:38:14 00:42:39:23 but it just...
some, like, puss
00:42:39:23 00:42:41:12 and a little bit of blood
come out,
00:42:41:12 00:42:44:08 and, you know,
I thought I was good.
00:42:44:08 00:42:46:11 Evidently, I guess I am.
00:42:46:12 00:42:48:07 So I was lucky there.
00:42:54:09 00:42:58:05 - But you have never been in...
in real trouble with the law?
00:42:58:05 00:42:59:14 - I had a felony.
00:42:59:14 00:43:01:23 That's the only bad...
bad one I had.
00:43:01:23 00:43:03:08 - But you're a working man.
00:43:03:08 00:43:04:17 - Yes, sir.
- You have a job?
00:43:04:17 00:43:06:14 - Yeah, I ain't been in trouble
in four years.
00:43:06:14 00:43:08:15 - Can I see your hands?
- Yeah.
00:43:08:15 00:43:12:09 - When we shook hands,
I noticed your calluses.
00:43:12:09 00:43:14:09 You are working...
- Yeah.
00:43:14:09 00:43:16:09 - In a paint shop?
- Yep.
00:43:16:09 00:43:18:01 - Cars.
- Yes, sir.
00:43:18:01 00:43:20:01 - Solid work.
- Yes, sir.
00:43:20:01 00:43:21:15 - And the tattoo in here?
00:43:21:15 00:43:24:09 Can I see this?
Can you show it?
00:43:24:09 00:43:27:09 - Bailey.
00:43:27:09 00:43:29:13 - You had been with her
when you met Burkett?
00:43:29:13 00:43:30:24 - Nah.
- Not yet, uh-huh.
00:43:30:24 00:43:32:09 - No.
00:43:32:09 00:43:34:12 I've been with her
for three years,
00:43:34:12 00:43:37:07 and I got a 17 month old baby
with her.
00:43:37:07 00:43:39:16 - Oh, yeah.
So you are staying with her?
00:43:39:16 00:43:41:11 - Yeah.
00:43:41:11 00:43:42:24 - Now the tattoo is forever.
00:43:42:24 00:43:44:20 - Yeah, it's forever.
00:43:44:20 00:43:47:04 They just don't come off.
00:43:47:04 00:43:51:18 - And what happens if
the relationship unravels?
00:43:51:18 00:43:53:17 What happens to "Bailey"?
00:43:53:17 00:43:56:01 - Guess I'm gonna have to get
"Bailey sucks" right there.
00:44:06:08 00:44:09:00 - Can you talk about
Jason Burkett?
00:44:09:01 00:44:11:09 How did you meet him?
How did you know him?
00:44:11:09 00:44:13:20 What do you know about him?
00:44:13:20 00:44:15:17 - First time I ever met him,
00:44:15:17 00:44:17:15 seemed like a pretty cool guy,
you know?
00:44:17:15 00:44:18:24 So we hung out,
00:44:18:24 00:44:21:07 and I introduced him to
a few girls and everything,
00:44:21:07 00:44:25:01 and then we used to
go huntin' together.
00:44:27:05 00:44:30:03 One time, he tried to kill me.
00:44:30:03 00:44:32:07 I introduced him
to these girls,
00:44:32:07 00:44:34:11 and her dad and him
had something going on.
00:44:34:11 00:44:35:20 I don't know.
00:44:35:20 00:44:38:02 Well, anyway, he thought
I wanted to get with that girl
00:44:38:02 00:44:40:14 and come over
to another girl's house
00:44:40:14 00:44:42:14 and rushed me with a gun.
00:44:42:14 00:44:44:15 Well, I had this girl
tell me to come outside,
00:44:44:15 00:44:46:09 and I was eating supper,
00:44:46:09 00:44:48:11 and he rushed me with a gun.
00:44:48:11 00:44:50:01 So we fought
for about 45 minutes
00:44:50:01 00:44:54:05 with a gun to my head
in this girl's house.
00:44:54:05 00:44:57:22 It was a .22 caliber
single-shot pistol.
00:44:57:22 00:45:00:22 Yeah, he held... held it
to my head,
00:45:00:22 00:45:03:22 banged me in the head with it.
00:45:03:22 00:45:06:10 We were fighting all through
the house with the gun
00:45:06:10 00:45:09:03 till I locked myself
in this bedroom,
00:45:09:03 00:45:10:23 and he was gonna
kick in the door,
00:45:10:23 00:45:13:06 so I just opened the door
and let him in
00:45:13:06 00:45:16:02 because I didn't want him to
tear this girl's dad's house up,
00:45:16:02 00:45:18:16 and after that,
we started fighting again,
00:45:18:16 00:45:21:09 and he pinned me on the bed,
and he pulled the trigger.
00:45:21:09 00:45:22:23 - Where did the bullet go?
00:45:22:23 00:45:25:11 - Nah, it misfired,
00:45:25:11 00:45:27:02 because the bullet
come out the gun,
00:45:27:02 00:45:30:07 and you could tell on
a 22 bullet, there's like...
00:45:30:07 00:45:32:15 it's just that round,
flat piece on the bottom.
00:45:32:15 00:45:34:12 Well, if the firing pin
ain't long enough,
00:45:34:12 00:45:38:04 it don't hit it, and...
and it don't... it won't go off,
00:45:38:04 00:45:42:12 but it hit it, but I don't know
why it didn't go off.
00:45:42:12 00:45:44:09 - You were lucky.
- Yeah.
00:45:44:09 00:45:45:23 - Very lucky.
00:45:45:23 00:45:47:11 - Yeah, I kind of
blacked out there.
00:45:50:14 00:45:54:14 But, yeah, real lucky.
00:45:54:14 00:45:57:02 And then him killing
those people, man,
00:45:57:02 00:45:59:02 I feel sorry
for their families.
00:46:06:03 00:46:09:08 Me and my friend Big Justin
was up at the bar one time,
00:46:09:08 00:46:13:09 and he come up there with these
new cars, him and Perry,
00:46:13:09 00:46:14:18 and we're like, "Man",
00:46:14:19 00:46:16:13 where'd y'all get
these new cars at?"
00:46:16:13 00:46:18:07 He's like,
"oh, we was holding hands"...
00:46:18:07 00:46:19:16 him and Perry was holding hands
00:46:19:16 00:46:22:18 and scratched off
a lottery ticket together
00:46:22:18 00:46:24:21 and won them two cars.
00:46:24:21 00:46:26:16 Well, me and my buddy
knew it wasn't right,
00:46:26:16 00:46:28:20 because they're both felons,
you know what I mean?
00:46:28:20 00:46:30:05 Ain't nobody gonna sell them...
00:46:30:05 00:46:32:05 ain't neither one
got a driver's license,
00:46:32:05 00:46:35:17 so, you know, and... and the cars
were, like, fully loaded,
00:46:35:17 00:46:39:09 CD's, skateboards,
and stuff like that in there,
00:46:39:09 00:46:43:07 and so we knew something...
something was up with it,
00:46:43:07 00:46:46:22 and he started giving people
joy rides up at the bar.
00:46:52:13 00:46:55:03 - Jason and Michael
came up to the bar
00:46:55:03 00:46:57:20 to show off two new vehicles
that they had purchased,
00:46:57:21 00:47:02:16 and at first, we...
nobody really understood.
00:47:02:16 00:47:05:10 They explained that they had
purchased a lottery ticket,
00:47:05:10 00:47:07:19 and that's how they got
the money to buy the cars,
00:47:07:19 00:47:11:18 and at that time, it started
getting a little weird.
00:47:11:18 00:47:15:02 - What didn't sound right
about this?
00:47:15:02 00:47:17:19 - The amount of
the lottery ticket was $4,000.
00:47:17:19 00:47:19:18 They said they cashed it
in a gas station.
00:47:19:18 00:47:22:19 That doesn't usually happen.
00:47:22:19 00:47:24:15 The vehicles themselves
didn't look like
00:47:24:15 00:47:26:00 they just came off a car lot.
00:47:26:00 00:47:27:09 - You drove these cars?
00:47:27:09 00:47:29:05 - I rode in them.
I didn't drive them.
00:47:29:05 00:47:30:17 Yeah, they...
Jason and Michael
00:47:30:17 00:47:32:17 were kind of giving everybody
test drives,
00:47:32:17 00:47:36:09 and I rode in both vehicles.
00:47:39:07 00:47:41:09 The... the red Camaro,
when I rode in it,
00:47:41:09 00:47:43:20 they were showing off guns.
00:47:43:20 00:47:45:06 There was a 12 gauge shotgun,
00:47:45:06 00:47:46:20 and I don't remember
the other one,
00:47:46:20 00:47:50:12 but I did see 'em in the trunk
of the red Camaro that night.
00:47:50:12 00:47:54:01 From what I heard, rumors,
you know, they were into...
00:47:54:01 00:47:57:08 initially planning on stealing
a car of my roommate
00:47:57:08 00:47:58:17 at the house I was staying at,
00:47:58:17 00:48:00:04 and that scared
the hell out of me,
00:48:00:04 00:48:01:13 'cause that could've been me.
00:48:01:13 00:48:03:06 You know, if he would've
decided to come
00:48:03:06 00:48:05:18 and get the car in my driveway,
where would I be?
00:48:06:13 00:48:09:00 I've... I've managed
to block it.
00:48:09:00 00:48:11:16 I've managed to try
to not deal with it
00:48:11:16 00:48:13:20 and not think about it.
00:48:18:14 00:48:23:11 I guess being in the situations
that I've been in,
00:48:23:11 00:48:25:11 just from being employed
at that bar,
00:48:25:11 00:48:30:07 I have seen so many awful things
that I don't deal with them.
00:48:30:07 00:48:32:08 I just kind of put them back.
00:48:34:01 00:48:36:14 - Did Jason brag about crimes?
00:48:36:14 00:48:39:09 - He never bragged to me
and my buddy Big Justin.
00:48:39:09 00:48:41:01 We didn't even know
what had happened,
00:48:41:01 00:48:45:03 and they was... they come got us
from Justin's house,
00:48:45:03 00:48:47:11 the police did,
and they took us up there,
00:48:47:11 00:48:49:16 and they was like,
"Y'all read the paper?"
00:48:49:16 00:48:52:09 And I told 'em, well,
I couldn't read,
00:48:52:09 00:48:54:07 and then they didn't
believe me,
00:48:54:07 00:48:56:18 and they looked at my record
and found out I can't read,
00:48:56:18 00:48:59:14 and then, so they read
the paper to me,
00:48:59:14 00:49:02:05 and they told me
what they had done.
00:49:02:06 00:49:03:15 - Mm-hmm.
00:49:03:15 00:49:04:24 Do you read now?
00:49:04:24 00:49:06:13 - Oh, yeah.
00:49:06:13 00:49:09:14 - So late, you started to learn
how to read.
00:49:09:14 00:49:11:02 - Yeah, I learned how to read.
00:49:11:02 00:49:12:11 - Wonderful, yes?
00:49:12:11 00:49:14:22 I find this
a great achievement.
00:49:14:22 00:49:17:21 - Yeah, it is awesome.
00:49:17:21 00:49:19:20 - You are much more
connected now.
00:49:19:20 00:49:22:16 - Yeah.
00:49:22:16 00:49:25:05 - How does it feel
not to be able to read?
00:49:25:05 00:49:27:06 You have to be much smarter
than the others
00:49:27:06 00:49:28:16 to understand the world anyway.
00:49:28:16 00:49:30:08 - Yeah.
00:49:30:08 00:49:33:04 It's... it's kind of tough
out there when you can't read,
00:49:33:04 00:49:35:08 but, I mean,
'cause they ain't always have
00:49:35:08 00:49:37:04 somebody gonna read it for you.
00:49:39:08 00:49:42:15 But, I mean,
I learned how to read in jail
00:49:42:15 00:49:46:09 so I could write letters
and read the letters,
00:49:46:09 00:49:50:17 and other than that,
I don't plan on going back,
00:49:50:17 00:49:54:01 but I'm glad I learned
how to read there.
00:49:54:01 00:49:56:13 - And you are doing good now?
- Oh, yeah.
00:49:56:13 00:49:58:20 Staying busy at the paint
and body shop.
00:49:58:20 00:50:00:20 - Reading?
- Oh, yeah.
00:50:00:20 00:50:02:08 - Writing?
00:50:02:08 00:50:04:10 - Not much writing.
00:50:04:10 00:50:05:21 A lot of sanding.
00:50:09:16 00:50:13:18 - I'm interested in your
relationship with Michael Perry.
00:50:13:18 00:50:15:09 How did you two meet?
00:50:15:09 00:50:17:00 How does this thing happen?
00:50:17:00 00:50:22:16 - In 2000,
I had a girlfriend in 2000.
00:50:22:16 00:50:25:13 She had a friend named Miranda.
00:50:25:14 00:50:27:06 I ended up going to jail,
00:50:27:06 00:50:29:19 and Miranda, I seen her
on the side of the road
00:50:29:19 00:50:32:07 arguing with Michael Perry,
and I said...
00:50:32:07 00:50:34:06 I pulled over, and I asked her
what was going on,
00:50:34:06 00:50:35:22 and she said,
"He's living in my trunk,
00:50:35:22 00:50:37:07 "and I can't get him...
00:50:37:07 00:50:38:23 "you know, he can't live there
no more.
00:50:38:23 00:50:40:08 "My dad's seen him.
00:50:40:08 00:50:42:04 "My dad got in a fight with him
this morning.
00:50:42:04 00:50:43:13 He can't live there."
00:50:43:13 00:50:45:02 So he was living
in the trunk of a car,
00:50:45:02 00:50:47:02 and I said, "Well, I don't know
what to tell you."
00:50:47:02 00:50:48:19 And she asked me,
"Can he live with you?"
00:50:48:19 00:50:50:04 And at that moment, I told her,
00:50:50:04 00:50:52:00 "No, he can't live with me."
00:50:52:00 00:50:54:13 And then, I looked at him,
and she's, like, sad and crying,
00:50:54:13 00:50:57:22 and she said, "Please, let him
live with you just for a month."
00:50:57:22 00:51:00:01 This was when we were living
in the camper trailer,
00:51:00:01 00:51:02:10 and I told him,
"You can live with us.
00:51:02:10 00:51:06:00 Get your stuff, put it
in my truck, and come home."
00:51:06:01 00:51:10:24 And from that day on,
I fed him, gave him money,
00:51:10:24 00:51:12:09 took care of him.
00:51:12:09 00:51:15:15 He was like a...
like a little brother,
00:51:15:15 00:51:17:14 kid brother
that was pushed on you,
00:51:17:14 00:51:20:17 and... and when they... he's older
than me by a few months,
00:51:20:17 00:51:22:20 but I had to take care of him
because he had nothing.
00:51:22:20 00:51:24:14 He had nobody.
00:51:24:14 00:51:27:02 Little did I know he had
a very supportive family.
00:51:27:02 00:51:29:18 His mom and dad
were both supportive.
00:51:29:18 00:51:31:07 He just didn't want
to follow rules.
00:51:31:07 00:51:33:13 He was just like me
and didn't want to follow rules,
00:51:33:13 00:51:35:11 and that's why he ended up
living with me,
00:51:35:11 00:51:38:05 'cause they said,
"Work and you can live with us."
00:51:38:05 00:51:40:01 He didn't want to work.
00:51:40:01 00:51:44:10 - And you were sent on a
outward Bound trip into Florida.
00:51:44:10 00:51:46:01 What happened?
What was that, yeah?
00:51:46:01 00:51:47:21 - Well, you know,
I'm a city boy at heart,
00:51:47:21 00:51:49:08 you know what I'm saying?
00:51:49:08 00:51:51:02 I'm really not into
the nature and bugs
00:51:51:02 00:51:53:10 and... and the weather
and, you know.
00:51:53:10 00:51:57:16 So, you know, when... they sent me
on a two week canoe trip.
00:51:57:16 00:51:59:08 - Which sounds wonderful
for me, but...
00:51:59:08 00:52:01:03 - Yeah, you know, you know,
I like to canoe,
00:52:01:03 00:52:02:12 but what it...
what was...
00:52:02:12 00:52:04:01 It wasn't the canoeing
that was bad.
00:52:04:01 00:52:05:14 It was that it was
in the Everglades.
00:52:05:14 00:52:07:12 I mean, we're seeing alligators
everywhere.
00:52:07:12 00:52:08:21 Now, my question is...
00:52:08:21 00:52:10:20 and I didn't even realize that
until I got here...
00:52:10:20 00:52:12:09 what happened
if I would've fell out
00:52:12:09 00:52:13:18 and got eaten by an alligator?
00:52:13:18 00:52:15:06 Who would've been responsible?
00:52:15:06 00:52:17:08 You know, did my parents sign
some type of waiver?
00:52:17:08 00:52:19:06 Because there was
alligators everywhere.
00:52:19:06 00:52:21:06 - Well, a young man of 13,
you better watch out
00:52:21:06 00:52:23:01 and... and handle
the alligators well, yes.
00:52:23:01 00:52:24:10 - Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:24:10 00:52:26:00 - But what happened then?
You didn't...
00:52:26:00 00:52:28:07 - Well, I think it was on
the third or fourth day.
00:52:28:07 00:52:32:04 We would canoe until, like,
nighttime and pull in.
00:52:32:04 00:52:34:21 I guess they had certain
designations marked,
00:52:34:21 00:52:36:20 and sometimes we'd pull in,
like, at midnight.
00:52:36:20 00:52:39:05 There's bugs... you can reach out
and grab a handful of bugs,
00:52:39:05 00:52:40:21 and then they'd want us
to cook dinner,
00:52:40:21 00:52:42:14 and, you know, I'm like,
"Man, I can't."
00:52:42:14 00:52:44:06 And one of the things
of the program was
00:52:44:06 00:52:45:22 to teach you immediate...
00:52:45:22 00:52:48:04 you know, every action
there's a... there's a reaction,
00:52:48:04 00:52:50:03 so immediate consequences
to your decisions,
00:52:50:03 00:52:51:17 and one of the things
I learned is that
00:52:51:17 00:52:53:10 if I don't pay attention
to the lessons...
00:52:53:10 00:52:54:22 we had these bags
for our property,
00:52:54:22 00:52:57:12 and you had to seal them right,
or they wouldn't be waterproof.
00:52:57:12 00:52:59:11 Well, I didn't listen,
and it fell in the water,
00:52:59:11 00:53:01:15 and all my stuff got wet,
so I didn't have my own tent.
00:53:01:15 00:53:03:07 I didn't have no
toilet paper any more,
00:53:03:07 00:53:04:16 and I didn't like that.
00:53:04:16 00:53:06:16 So basically, I... I was
my typical stubborn self,
00:53:06:16 00:53:08:01 and I told them, "You know what?"
00:53:08:01 00:53:09:19 I ain't doing this no more.
Take me home."
00:53:09:19 00:53:11:18 - But you were not attacked
by alligators, but...
00:53:11:18 00:53:13:14 - No, we were attacked
by monkeys, though.
00:53:13:14 00:53:14:23 - By monkeys.
What happened?
00:53:14:23 00:53:17:01 - Absolutely, monkeys
were jumping from one side
00:53:17:01 00:53:18:11 to the trees
on the side we were at
00:53:18:11 00:53:19:24 and come... trying
to come over there,
00:53:19:24 00:53:22:19 and they couldn't figure out
where the monkeys came from,
00:53:23:11 00:53:25:16 but there was
a whole bunch of them,
00:53:25:16 00:53:27:04 a whole bunch.
00:53:27:04 00:53:28:14 I wanted to get out
and get one,
00:53:28:14 00:53:30:19 but they said
they have diseases, right?
00:54:04:21 00:54:06:21 - So best... case scenario,
00:54:06:21 00:54:10:06 if you are granted parole
in 2041,
00:54:10:06 00:54:13:04 how old would you be then?
00:54:13:04 00:54:14:16 Does this ever occur to you?
00:54:14:16 00:54:16:05 Do you want to think about it?
00:54:16:05 00:54:19:10 - I'll be 59, 60.
00:54:19:10 00:54:20:19 I was 19.
00:54:20:19 00:54:22:15 I have to do 40 years from 19,
00:54:22:15 00:54:26:21 which will be 59 years old.
00:54:26:21 00:54:28:05 Long time.
00:54:31:04 00:54:34:08 - When it came to the phase
after your trial was over,
00:54:34:08 00:54:38:18 for punishment phase,
your father showed up in court.
00:54:40:01 00:54:41:19 Can you describe the scene?
00:54:43:10 00:54:44:21 - I knew he was coming,
00:54:44:21 00:54:47:11 and I knew what he was gonna
testify to,
00:54:47:11 00:54:50:01 but to hear him testify,
it's like...
00:54:50:01 00:54:51:22 I was born with neuroblastomas.
00:54:51:22 00:54:54:23 I... I had 18 surgeries
by the time I was five,
00:54:54:23 00:54:57:10 and I... I don't know
a lot about it
00:54:57:10 00:55:01:08 because it's something
that I try to shy away from.
00:55:01:08 00:55:03:22 I knew he was gonna testify
to my raising,
00:55:03:22 00:55:06:05 and I was a...
in pain all the time,
00:55:06:05 00:55:08:10 and he'd watch me cry to sleep,
and...
00:55:10:03 00:55:12:11 It was difficult,
because I seen him cry.
00:55:12:11 00:55:14:01 I mean, if you ever see my dad,
00:55:14:01 00:55:18:10 he's 6'6 ", 6'7", 300 pounds,
big old guy, tattooed.
00:55:18:10 00:55:20:06 - And they brought him
in from... from prison.
00:55:20:06 00:55:21:15 - He came in from prison.
00:55:21:15 00:55:23:19 - Is he still incarcerated?
00:55:23:19 00:55:26:07 - He's right across the street
on Ellis Unit.
00:55:28:07 00:55:30:12 - Mr. Burkett,
how are you doing?
00:55:30:12 00:55:32:15 - Just... I'm doing fine.
00:55:32:15 00:55:34:03 Doing fine.
Little sick.
00:55:34:03 00:55:36:03 - How fine?
- Little bit sick.
00:55:36:03 00:55:38:02 - Mm-hmm.
00:55:38:02 00:55:40:12 You are in here
for how many years?
00:55:40:12 00:55:41:22 - 40.
00:55:41:22 00:55:43:12 - 40 years.
- Yes, sir.
00:55:43:12 00:55:45:07 - Eight felony counts,
is that correct?
00:55:45:07 00:55:47:17 - Yes, sir.
- That's pretty serious.
00:55:47:17 00:55:49:05 - Yes, sir.
00:55:49:05 00:55:53:05 - And you spent some time before
this 40 year sentence in jail.
00:55:53:05 00:55:54:14 Is that correct?
00:55:54:14 00:55:55:23 - Yes, sir.
- Yeah.
00:55:55:23 00:55:58:11 - I've been in prison
five times.
00:55:58:12 00:56:00:18 - How many years already?
00:56:00:18 00:56:02:17 - A 2 year sentence,
a 5 year sentence,
00:56:02:17 00:56:05:23 a 30 year sentence,
and then this 40.
00:56:05:23 00:56:07:23 - That's a lot.
- Yes, sir.
00:56:07:23 00:56:10:04 - What went wrong?
00:56:10:04 00:56:12:12 - Drugs and alcohol.
00:56:12:12 00:56:14:01 - Can you explain?
00:56:14:01 00:56:18:13 - Well, I started using drugs
when I was about 13,
00:56:18:13 00:56:21:02 drinking and drugging,
and, uh...
00:56:22:12 00:56:25:08 Selling and manufacturing.
00:56:25:08 00:56:27:20 Some stealing and burglarizing
going along with it
00:56:27:20 00:56:29:11 to sup... support the habit
00:56:29:11 00:56:33:11 and always end up
back in prison.
00:56:33:11 00:56:37:13 - There's one significant moment
when Jason, your son,
00:56:37:13 00:56:40:17 was found guilty
for capital murder...
00:56:40:18 00:56:43:03 - Yes.
- And triple homicide.
00:56:43:03 00:56:46:02 During the sentencing phase,
you appeared in court.
00:56:46:02 00:56:49:20 Can you describe what you said
to the jury?
00:56:53:03 00:56:57:01 - Well...
00:56:57:01 00:57:00:05 I explained to 'em
what prison life was about,
00:57:00:05 00:57:02:21 and I explained...
I explained to 'em
00:57:02:21 00:57:05:16 that I didn't think killing him
00:57:05:16 00:57:11:00 was gonna bring back those
people or really, you know,
00:57:11:00 00:57:14:09 do anything to correct
what happened,
00:57:14:09 00:57:18:15 and I asked
the jury to, you know,
00:57:18:15 00:57:21:10 "Please, you know,
don't kill my son."
00:57:21:11 00:57:22:19 I asked 'em.
00:57:22:20 00:57:25:05 I said just,
"Please, don't kill my son."
00:57:25:05 00:57:28:05 He never had a chance.
00:57:28:05 00:57:29:19 He didn't have a father.
00:57:29:19 00:57:32:18 I told 'em that, you know,
he did... I was never there,
00:57:32:18 00:57:34:22 and his mother was a, you know,
single mother
00:57:34:22 00:57:36:19 with four children,
00:57:36:19 00:57:39:16 and... and she had handicaps.
00:57:39:16 00:57:42:04 She... she's on disability.
00:57:42:04 00:57:44:23 Most of that time,
she was living on disability,
00:57:44:23 00:57:47:09 and so they...
they really didn't...
00:57:47:09 00:57:49:19 they lived off food stamps,
00:57:49:19 00:57:53:02 and, you know, HUD housing
and that type of thing,
00:57:53:02 00:57:56:19 and... and he...
he really...
00:57:56:19 00:58:01:14 he really had a real poor life
growing up.
00:58:03:11 00:58:05:14 I just asked 'em
not to kill my son.
00:58:05:14 00:58:06:23 It wasn't his fault.
00:58:06:23 00:58:08:22 I... it... I wished I could...
00:58:08:22 00:58:11:10 I wish that I could
take the time, his time.
00:58:11:10 00:58:15:06 I wish I could, 'cause I feel
like that it's my fault.
00:58:15:06 00:58:17:15 I... I... really do.
00:58:17:15 00:58:19:23 I feel like it's...
00:58:19:23 00:58:22:02 I'm as much at fault as he is,
00:58:22:02 00:58:23:18 'cause if I'd have been there,
00:58:23:18 00:58:25:13 it, quite possibly, maybe not,
00:58:25:13 00:58:27:13 but... but it might possibly
have been different.
00:58:27:13 00:58:29:19 He'd have had a better chance.
00:58:29:19 00:58:32:07 You know, he'd have
a whole lot better chance,
00:58:32:07 00:58:34:23 if I'd have been there
helping his mother raise him,
00:58:34:23 00:58:36:20 but I wasn't.
00:58:36:20 00:58:39:01 The jury got up to leave,
00:58:39:01 00:58:41:15 and the door was right here
to my right,
00:58:41:15 00:58:44:23 and as the door closed
behind them,
00:58:44:23 00:58:47:03 I heard two ladies break down.
00:58:47:03 00:58:49:04 I'm... I'm real emotional,
00:58:49:04 00:58:51:16 and I'm crying
through the whole thing,
00:58:51:16 00:58:54:20 but as they went through
that door, and the door closed,
00:58:54:20 00:58:58:16 I heard two ladies
break down crying.
00:58:58:16 00:59:03:08 They broke down,
and then the...
00:59:03:08 00:59:06:08 when it... it was all over
and his lawyer come told me,
00:59:06:08 00:59:08:20 he said...
I remember the... his words.
00:59:08:20 00:59:11:10 He said, "You got him."
00:59:11:10 00:59:12:19 - You saved a life.
00:59:12:19 00:59:14:05 - He said... he said,
"You got him."
00:59:14:05 00:59:16:00 I said,
"What do you mean?"
00:59:16:00 00:59:18:01 He said, "You got him."
00:59:18:01 00:59:19:22 And that's where I...
that's what saved...
00:59:19:22 00:59:21:07 there was two votes.
00:59:21:07 00:59:24:19 It was ten to two,
and there was two votes
00:59:24:19 00:59:28:09 that voted not to kill him,
00:59:28:09 00:59:32:21 and I think those were the
two ladies right there that...
00:59:32:21 00:59:36:24 they're the ones
that saved his life.
00:59:36:24 00:59:39:11 - But you can be proud
of this moment.
00:59:39:11 00:59:41:05 - Yeah.
00:59:44:02 00:59:46:07 I had some help too.
00:59:46:07 00:59:47:20 God helped me.
00:59:47:20 00:59:49:06 He did.
00:59:49:06 00:59:51:13 I asked God to help me,
and I think He did.
00:59:55:04 00:59:58:21 I didn't deserve
any help for him.
00:59:58:21 01:00:00:21 He may not deserve the help,
01:00:00:21 01:00:04:22 but we got it
from some place, so...
01:00:10:15 01:00:12:08 - The hardest part
was to look at him
01:00:12:08 01:00:13:17 and for him to look at me,
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