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"hampir 60 tahun merdeka, umno bn tidak meletakkan pembinaan negara bangsa sebagai matlamat utamanya," komentar beliau dalam wawancara bersama syed husin (2012). dalam suasana berbilang kaum, seperti switzerland, penubuhan negara bangsa boleh dicapai dengan menyokong struktur politik, ekonomi dan sosial yang adil dan terkawal untuk merealisasikan matlamat negara bangsa. ia tidak boleh dilakukan dengan mempromosikan politik kaum yang "terhad".
"almost 60 years of independence, umno bn does not place the building of the nation state as its main aim," he remarked in an interview with syed husin (2012). in a multiracial setting, such as switzerland, the establishment of a nation state can be accomplished by supporting a fair and controllable political, economic, and social structure in order to realise the nation unifying state's aim. it can't be done by promoting "limited" racial politics.