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dyna'r math o ddadl y dylem ei chynnal gyda phobl cymru , nid amherthnasedd comisiwn a sefydlwyd i ystyried trefniadau etholiadol mewn llywodraeth leol
that is the kind of debate that we should have with people in wales , not the irrelevance of a commission charged with looking at electoral arrangements in local government
os bydd hyn yn gweithio , bydd yn newid o eistedd mewn ystafell bwyllgor ym mharc cathays a suddo i iselder ysbryd ynghylch amherthnasedd llwyr y polisïau a wthiwyd ar gymru
if this works it will make a change from hours of sitting in a committee room in cathays park and sinking into depression at the total irrelevance of the policies foisted on wales