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fodd bynnag , y gwir yw mai'r rhai sydd fwyaf cefnogol i ewrop yw'r bobl sy'n ceisio codi llais ar hyn o bryd gan fod pob un ohonom yn sefyll dros hawl holl bobl ewrop i hunanbenderfyniad ac yr wyf yn un ohonynt -- [ aelodau cynulliad : ` o . '] efallai fy mod yn agosach at genedlaetholwyr cymru gan fy mod yn un o'r bobl nad ydynt am i gymru gael ei gogynnwys o fewn gwladwriaeth ewro ar batrwm yr undeb sofietaidd
however , the truth is that those who are trying to speak out at the moment are the most pro-europe of all because we are standing up for the right of all europeans to self determination and i am one of those -- [ assembly members : ` oh . '] i am perhaps closer to the welsh nationalists because i am one of those who do not want wales to be subsumed into a soviet-style euro-state